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Wednesday, November 14, 2007

Have You Killed An Atheist Today?

Posted in Creation-Evo Debate

“Posted For Christians Only, Not Intended For Others”

A while back I stumbled on an atheist blog on mySpace. He put out a challenge for Christians to go seven days letting everyone they knew think they had turned to atheism. This was to prove that atheists were being persecuted more than any other people like theists. On starting the challenge he took great pains to paint a picture of the suffering atheist that was being persecuted for his belief or lack of. When I read this I could not believe that he actually thought that more atheists have been killed than Christians through the years. So I smugly commented back for him to give me at least one account of an atheist being killed by a Christian.
Well his reply dropped my jaw. He gave me two. One on the comment page and one by email.
“Ashley John Appoo, 40, pleaded guilty in a court in Brisbane, Australia, to the manslaughter death of John Leslie McDonald, and to cause grievous bodily harm to McDonald’s wife, Alois, during an ax attack in November 2001. Appoo, a hitchhiker whom McDonald picked up and befriended, went berserk when Ms. McDonald mentioned they were atheists. Described as a “proud Christian whose bible was one of his most precious possessions,” Appoo grabbed an ax and began attacking the couple. Source: Daily Telegraph, Dec. 23, 2004″
And
“On October 18, 2004, Arthur Shelton, a self described Christian and Eagle Scout, murdered his friend and roommate, Larry Hooper, because Hooper didn’t believe in God.”

This really chapped me. At first glance my response was typical,” These were not real “Christians”. But on giving it more thought. This arguement is all used up. The person reporting on the Larry Hooper story, who was an atheist, and reported on how the “Christians” treated him during the trial. Calling them devils. Shoving their crosses in their faces like they were vampires. And just plain hateful.
And although these are atheist sources, I say it is a shame that I have no problem believing they are true.

So I want to address this post to Christians. Have you all ever read the ten commandments, “Thou (that means you) shalt (you will not) Kill (stop the life of an innocent being). What part don’t you understand? God has told no one to kill anyone in His name. You say you read and follow the Bible, well let’s take a look at that:

Matthew 5:43 You have heard that it was said,”Love your neighbor and hate your enemies”. But I (Jesus) say to you, love your enemies. Pray for those who hurt you.
1 John 2:9 Anyone who says,” I am in the light,” but hates a brother or sister, is still in darkness.
1 John 4:20 If people say, “I love God”,but hate their brothers or sisters they are liars. Those who do not love their brothers and sisters, whom they have seen, cannot love God , whom they have not seen. (verses from the New Century Version)

Get the picture? We are to love others, not kill them.
To kill a person whom God created is a serious sin against God. You will never have a good reason to do this.
Although atheists have gathered us in mass and killed us like animals, so what?
They constantly insult us by telling us we are stupid and do not use our brains, so what?
You can’t even get on a Christian forum for encouragement without one butting in and insulting you , so what?
You can’t watch a sit-com with your family without seeing a Christian depicted as a lunatic murderer, so what?
These would make a natural person want to attack back, but we are not to be natural.
We are not our own, we are bought with a price.

Jesus said,“If the world hates you, remember that it hated Me first. If you belonged to the world, it would love you as it loves it’s own. But I have chosen you out of the world, so you don’t belong to it. That is why the world hates you. Remember what I told you: A servant is not greater than his Master, If people did wrong to Me, they will do all this to you account of Me, because they do not know the one who sent Me.” John 15:18-21 (verses from the New Century Version)

People, it would be better for us to die than an unbeliever.
The Bible says,
“Say to them, As I live, says the Lord God, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that the wicked turn from his way and live. Turn back, turn back from your evil ways, for why will you die, O house of Israel?” Ezekiel 33:11 King James
and
“Precious in the sight of the LORD is the death of his saints.” Psalm 116:15

Years ago I used to travel a little for a small company and I decided I would take a gun just in case I needed it. The Lord impressed on me the question,” Would I really kill someone and send them to hell instead of yielding and risk him sending me to Heaven?” I held on to the gun for awhile joking with the idea that I would never kill, but it was surprising what someone could live through. I later got ride of the gun. My point is we are not to kill, if anyone was to be killed we should have the attitude that it would be better if it was us. Giving the Lord full time to reveal Himself to the unbeliever.

Back to the murdered atheists. Who the hell are we to kill someone just because they do not believe. This makes me mad and we have seen above how God feels. He has no pleasure. God does not smile. You have gave Him no pleasure. These imposters will have to stand before the Lord and give account of themselves. And the worst of it all is that some of you are more offended over me saying “hell” than over these two men killed. Repent. Change your way of thinking. Turn to Jesus and love your neighbor as yourself. For believe me, if you hate your neighbor you are not saved no matter how many times you walk that aisle and shed a few tears.

Atheist are not our enemies. Not gays. Not unbelievers.
“Our fight is not against people on earth but against the rulers and authorties and the powers of this world’s darkness, against the spiritual powers of evil in the heavenly world.” Ephesians 6:12

Have we forgotten these things? Or did we ever know? If you’re one of those who pickets graves of dead soldiers, bash gays or anything else you believe is God’s will, you’d better read all the Bible. Without the love of Christ operating in you. You are no different than the ones you hate. You just know how to speak religious. And you hinder the Holy Spirit moving on the unbelievers.

It is real simple: Treat others the way you want to be treated”. Even atheists, gays and unbelievers can do this. And then all the hate crimes will cease. And I leave you with this:”You have heard that it was said to our people long ago,’You must not murder anyone. Anyone who murders anyone will be judged.’ But I (Jesus) tell you, if you are angry with a brother or sister, you will be judged.” Matthew 5:21-22

Note: This post is intended for Christians, please all else hold your negative comments for someone that wants to hear them. Who is not me.


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Thursday, November 15, 2007 - Untitled Comment


Posted by Cindeerella
You are showing examples of a few people who were obviously mentally ill. Normal, real Christians would NOT KILL someone just because they don't believe in God. Give me a break! This post was ridiculous!


Friday, December 14, 2007 - Actually, it does happen...


Posted by Anonymous
Bernard Slepian was killed by James Kopp in Amherst, NY almost 10 years ago.
I found your post to be very interesting.



Wednesday, January 2, 2008 - Untitled Comment


Posted by wayneb36301
Cindeerella,
That sort-of my point. Thanks for understanding


Sunday, January 6, 2008 - I enjoyed this


Posted by Pattisea
Enjoyed? Maybe I mean I am glad you posted it. Sometimes I get mad, too. As Christians, we are supposed to live as Christ did (He could have taken the lives of the men who arrested and crucified Him, but he chose US over himself!).

It's disheartening to me that so many of the representives of "the church" either are, or act like they are, total whack jobs! Think of how many Dr.'s in abortion clinics have been attacked!

I don't think atheists are more persecuted (or murdered more often) than Christians. I think all crimes against fellow human beings are hate crimes (it's pretty hateful to steal from someone who has worked hard for their money, pretty hateful to rape someone, pretty hateful to damage the property of another person, and it is MOST hateful to take someone's life).

Until people take seriously the call to love one another, these things will continure to happen.

Pattisea


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