Call me "Old Fashioned", but I thought it was specifically clear in the Bible that women are not supposed to be pastors. 1 Timothy 2:11-12 proclaims, “A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent.” In the church, God assigns different roles to men and women. This is a result of the way mankind was created (1 Timothy 2:13) and the way in which sin entered the world (2 Timothy 2:14). God, through the Apostle Paul’s writing, restricts women from serving in roles of spiritual teaching authority over men. This precludes women from serving as pastors, which definitely includes preaching to, teaching, and having spiritual authority over men.
Before my husband and I were saved we attended a United Methodist Church where there was a woman pastor, and she married us. Now that I know the Bible more and look for answers from the Bible I am convicted that women are not supposed to be in leadership roles.
We recently left a mega-church this past summer for a lot of reasons and one being they hired a woman pastor. Other reasons were because we just did not need a huge church anymore. Our kids were more concerned with fitting in then learning about God. Now we attend a Missionary Alliance church. I think we should have asked them how they stood on this topic at the very beginning, not now after attending for the past 7 months!
How do you stand on this topic? Please leave me comments!
I agree with you. The Bible makes it absolutely clear that women are not to be in authority within the church. It's hard to find a church that follows the Word. It shouldn't be! But it is. Have you spoken to your church leaders yet and asked them about this?
Liese
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08:46, Sunday, January 27, 2008
.. Posted by homesteadmama4
I am interested at what others have to say also. I have heard that it is okay to teach other women and children but not men. Maybe that's why she is a youth pastor.
I agree 100%. Scripture is clear on this topic and it is up to us to take a stand to follow Scripture. It will get tougher and tougher to do so, as we live in a compromising world.
Blessings,
Trixi
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10:27, Sunday, January 27, 2008
.. Posted by gabbie427
In Bible times, a woman as a pastor or sunday school teacher would have been a stumbling block. Why??? Because of the society at those times. Society as a whole then taught that woman were possessions and they didn't have the access to education as the men did. The men possessed their wives and the women of the household and any teachings the woman received were from their husbands. They didn't have a mind of their own. Jesus told them in a sense that if having a woman in a leadership role was a stumbling block for their faith, that they should not have one as a teacher, preacher, etc.
However, a few things have obviously changed in society since then. In the majority, men do not possess their wives, but we are equal partners in the marriage. Society doesn't look down upon the female anymore either and she has just as many opportunity to education as the males.
Personally I think whether a woman or a man is standing in position of a church, whether it be pastoring, youth pastoring, or leading the choir or Sunday school is not an important enough factor to change which church I attend. There are lost souls out there, and does it not count if a female has lead them to Christ??? Isn't it the issue of the heart and the issue of heaven or hell that is more important than a dress standing behind the pulpit???
Our church has a male pastor at the moment. Who founded our church?? His MOTHER and FATHER. Both of them. His mother has preached at our church many times, and she was wonderful!! Our youth leaders are a married couple. The wife leads our praise and worship team as well.
If a woman in that society was not to take a leadership role, and you still believe this, then where does that belief stop??? Can a woman teach her son at home, but not at church? Can a woman be a boss or supervisor at work over your own husband, but not teach Sunday School at church???
I am not trying to offend you in any way. Just giving you a hint of what the other side might be thinking.
God's Blessings,
Amy Jo
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11:05, Sunday, January 27, 2008
.. Posted by Kitty
I have to say that I agree with Amy Jo, she said it perfectly...........Kitty
Society May Change, God's Word Does Not!
07:09, Monday, January 28, 2008
.. Posted by Amanda
The Bible does make it clear that a man and not a woman is to lead the church. How can anyone say that it says different?
We need to stand up for the word of God and not change and compromise as the world would have us to do.
God's word says it, I believe it. Plain and simple.
Amanda <><
II Corinthians 5:7
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07:15, Monday, January 28, 2008
.. Posted by gokings13
I am in agreement with God's Word.
He is clear who is to lead. (1 Timothy specificaly, and throughout Scripture).
We pulled out of youth group first, then out of our mega church all together....For the same reasons.
Keep your nose to the Word and He will lead you in which direction to go.
Laura
Agree
08:11, Monday, January 28, 2008
.. Posted by Wendy
Early childhood, yes, youth and adult... no. I believe as Elders are to be men (Biblically) and ministers also. A woman should not take a place of headship over the man. How shall men learn to step up and take roles of leadership in their home when the leader before them was a woman? I too feel strongly that a women's place is in her home as stated in the Bible - to love her husband and children and be a keeper of the home. I know this isn't a popular concept in our culture - but I affirm. There are many other comments, etc that play into this - but I haven't the time to post them. :0)
Woman pastors
03:58, Monday, January 28, 2008
.. Posted by Anonymous
God saw fit to put in the Bible those Scriptures that are there. If we take away from the word those things we think are not relevant anymore, then other things can be taken away too. If God sees fit for those scriptures to be there, who are we to interpret differently or take away from it as we see fit. ALL of Gods word is relevant and we should not be compromising by saying it is OK for woman to Pastor when it is clearly stated that we are not to teach. It does not make woman any less valuable it is just the order God put in place. Compromise works it's way into the church very slowly and subtly and only after a long time of all these compromises entering the church do we wonder how the church got to be so far from the truth.
It is hard to stand for what you feel is right, but I would rather believe EVRY word that God put in His word than compromise to so as to not make people feel uncomfortable.
Blessings,
Natalie.
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12:53, Wednesday, January 30, 2008
.. Posted by Anonymous
why not?
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02:33, Friday, February 1, 2008
.. Posted by Anonymous
I agree that women should not be pastors. A woman could be a Sunday School teacher, or even be a "leader" for others in a Titus 2 fashion, but Scripture makes it clear that the SHEPHERDS of the flock are not to be sheperdesses.
Saying that times have changed, that men and women relate differently, that the rule was for the more patriarchal societies is irrelevant. We are to conform our worship to His Word, not the other way around!
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