Lord, how are they increased that trouble me! many are they that rise up against me.
Many there be which say of my soul, There is no help for him in God. Selah.
But thou, O LORD, art a shield for me; my glory, and the lifter up of mine head.
I cried unto the LORD with my voice, and he heard me out of his holy hill. Selah.
Psalm 3:1-4
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Tuesday, July 29, 2008
Walls, Walls and More Walls
Every turn I make brings me to yet another wall.
Each time I attempt to put one foot in front of the other, something blocks my way.
The custody hearing my husband brought before the courts is in less than one week, and I still do not have representation.
I was able to get a card with Judicare.
However, because my husband ended up filing something legal first, Judicare now cannnot help me. We're talking two different jurisdictions, and they do not pay for an attorney's travel costs.
So... they referred me to Legal Aid. There, I was painted an extremely grim picture, yesterday afternoon..
Because I have no "paper trail" (no police reports, etc...), I am told it will be very difficult to prove to the courts that my husband is unfit to take all five smaller children, much less trying to show that I had JUST CAUSE to leave in the first place.
(Try telling them you didn't report things out of fear of what would happen if you had! They don't care!)
They told me it was a felony for having "taken the children from their father" without "proven just cause" and that I had better have a pretty persuasive statement written up to present to the judge.
The woman at Legal Aid told me that we were looking at a very grim situation. One that is extremely bleak. She told me I might even be looking at a jail sentence.
FOR LEAVING A MAN WHO WAS EXTREMELY ABUSIVE!
Needless to say, I spent the remainder of the night in tears, feeling as though I should never have left to begin with. In fact, I was considering going back. Giving up.
My husband will always have all the power. I will never get out from under it.
My sister suggested I phone one of the attorneys I have spoken with in the past months to find out what their retainer fee was. The Legal Aid help did not look as though it was going to be any sort of help at all.
Unfortunately, I have no one in my family who can afford it. No one willing to help. To put a share into a "pot" toward it...
I still have no lawyer to represent me, and must go to court in five days.
To make matters even worse, I attempted to contact the three police stations that have had contact/calls regarding my husband. He has escalated since I left him and has spent much time stalking family members as well as staff members here at the shelter.
However, the number one stunning show of "out of control" behavior by by husband was not documented in a police report!
I spoke to the policemen that were on call that particular night. So far, no one is able to help me to create a report to "fill in the gap".
Meaning?
Meaning it is apparent that a person can mistreat and abuse his family, as well as stalk relatives, wives and others without a care or concern. It's easy to get away with it. In fact, you might even get rewarded.
How?
Well, by being physically, sexually and mentally abusive and by having a show of urinary incontinence and childish tantrum on your belly in the grass... by chasing innocent pizza delivery men and posting up flyers all over town defaming your spouse... by lying and deceiving and attempting to tell the police to arrest your wife who is "crazy" and about to murder your five children... you can gain custody of them.
She's helpless and you know it.
She can't prove a thing.
Good thing your mother pays your way out of everything, isn't it?! She's bought you the best attorney around! You're all set!
And ... the best part of all is how you can succeed at showing your wife that no matter where she flees... you still are the one in control of everything.
She'll never be free.
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Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - Untitled Comment
Monica Said:
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I still believe in you. Keep going- it's like I told Rose..."God saw what he did."
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Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - Untitled Comment
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Oh, my... hang in there. I think you have many, many people praying for you, and God sees what is happening. I'll be keeping you in my prayers.
Love to you and your little (and bigger) ones.
~Michelle
Ps. Please don't go back... haven't the staff people filed or documented his behavior there at the shelter?
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Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - Leaving
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I still feel like you need to flee. Meaning, find a shelter that is "truely undercover" and start over in another state. It is very strange that your shelter that you are in now is not very hidden..Areal shelter that no one would ever even know it was any difference then any other home would be the best kind for you all...They will change your whole identity as well as your DC's..Many ladies in your situation do this if they feel that the courts will not work in fairness.You obviously would have to give up alot, but your life and your DC's lives are worth it.
Pray on what God would have you do..and don't you listen to Satan pulling you down in the quick sand telling you to go back. You have come so far at last and no matter how tough it is..you need to think of the 5 lives you will be saving by NOT going back. You do not want your DC having to go through this when they are older and marry. History has a tendency to repeat itself..You need to be strong and set the example for your littles..and even your oldest 2 DD's They are learning alot from you right now.Kwim?
(Praying hard for you!)
~MichelleC
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Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - Untitled Comment
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I agree with the last poster, well.. with all of them. I am praying for you and your children. Praying for justice to be done!
Dont go back, it would just be worse.
Praying for God to strengthen you and to give a miracle , do show his love and care. He loves you and cares for you sooo much, and the dc.
Praying!!
Lori G.
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Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - Untitled Comment
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Gather your little chicks and FLEE, Carrie. Get out of the state. Find a safe haven.
If this is impossible then could you go back and bide your time till you could make a run further away? You have the beginnings of a paper trail now. Keep a journal. Log everything that he says and does. Keep it hidden.
I was listening to a song whose message is appropriate for a severe trial. It is Casting Crowns "Praise You in the Storm". It may be to "rocky" for you, but the lyrics are really good.
Blessings dear Sister.
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Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - Untitled Comment
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I suggested that maybe you could go back and bide your time till you could get further away. Scratch that! I do not feel any peace in thinking of you going back to your husband.
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Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - Untitled Comment
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Oh my dear Carrie,
I don't know what to say. God knows. He knows what has happened, and He holds the future. God has a hope and a future for you and your children. He will protect you and your children. You need to talk to the people at the shelter to get them to document the phone calls, the visits, and everything else. You need to find that pizza delivery guy and have him document. You need to have family members document and you need to talk to the people from the witness protection again. You also need to find an attorney that will listen to you and take you for what you can pay. The shelter should know of somebody. You also need to file the restraining order against him. That will be a paper trail. You also need to be on the police's case to get the documents in order for you. What happened to the DA's office that he went to that backfired on him? Know I am praying for you. Please keep us updated as you can.
Cheryl
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Wednesday, July 30, 2008 - Untitled Comment
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You need to be VERY, VERY careful about leaving the state. You could be charged with kidnapping if you take your children across state lines, since legal proceedings have begun. Please don't do this without looking into it more. You would have to weigh the risks of staying in state with leaving. I know you don't want to risk losing your children altogether. ~Michelle
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Wednesday, July 30, 2008 - Untitled Comment
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I agree with the post about doiing all you can to do the paper trail. But do not leave the state unless you are in the witness protection. It could make you loose you children.
I await your posts.
Blessings and prayers
Peg
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Wednesday, July 30, 2008 - Untitled Comment
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Go home and let him pound the snot out of you.........
Then file charges.
That's all you can do.
If you leave state, you will be 'kidnapping'.
You have no evidence. Your word against his.
Everyone is going to look at you with a crooked eye anyway. Not that it's justified, but because of the way you and the kids dress........you homeschool.........your faith..........the cards are WAY stacked against you.
I would stop venting in public. He WILL use it against you.
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Wednesday, July 30, 2008 - (((((((((Carrie)))))))))))
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You are a daughter of the Most High God! He will be your mediator, your judge, your lawyer. Put your full trust and faith in Him and not in man. Put on the full armor of God and fight, Carrie, fight in the spirit!
Don't stop believing in the only one who can. I know it all looks hopeless now, but God will not put you to shame. You are His, not the world's, not your husband's, and not even your children's. He cares for you. This is a trial, a refining time and you are being passed through the fire and it hurts to be passed through the fire, but don't despair, the end of all of this is nearer than you think and God has it all in His hands!
Keep your chin up! Keep your faith up and strong! Praise Him right now whereever you are for the time that you are going through! There are more sisters in Christ praying for you than you know! We love you, Carrie!
Dee
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Wednesday, July 30, 2008 - Untitled Comment
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Oh! My poor dear! *Hugs tightly* I am praying hard for you all!!!
Remember, he is not really in control of everything, but God is! God knows what's going on, and He loves you SO much, even when it doesn't feel like it. And He loves your children as well. He will never leave your or forsake you!
I love you all!
Amy
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Wednesday, July 30, 2008 - Dear Sister,
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I will not tell you what to do, but I will share what members of my own family have done...
My mother left my abusive father many years ago, way back before the courts made much attempt to help those without money behind them. We lived openly yet in hiding, for my entire childhood. I had boundaries of things that I was allowed to do and places allowed to go, and I learned young to take a very careful watchful eye of all around me...cars passing by, people on the street as I went to school, etc. Anything out of the ordinary in my day was something to watch much closer.
My aunt left her abusive spouse 18 years ago. She fled the state she lived in, had made a life in, worked in, had friends and family in. She took my cousin, 6 at the time, and left in the night without more than a handful of dollars and a tank of gas. Her husband had far more resources than yours, even with his mother behind him, and yet she managed to hide until well after my cousin turned 21.
There was no paper trail for her either -- her husband was friends with the state police, the local sheriffs, several high officials and the governor of the state she lived in. My family members all received 'threatening' letters demanding information, threatening jail sentences, loss of rights and so forth from the governor of her state if we chose to keep her hidden from justice.
No one knew where she had gone. She left without a trace and while we did have contact with her periodically, it was all done very carefully so we would not actually know any details of her new life.
She had a new name, finally got a job, my cousin attended school publicly and even went on to the state college where her new life was.
Should you choose to leave in the night as it were, it CAN be done. It is a great sacrifice for yourself and your children, but it can mean safety and that is the highest goal. If you truly, without a doubt believe you are in danger and your children are in danger, no steps are too far to take, imo.
HandsNHearts
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Wednesday, July 30, 2008 - Untitled Comment
Deblyn Said:
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Oh my heart breaks for you! I just wanted you to know that I am praying that the truth be revealed at the custody hearing and that all true character will be revealed as well! (((hugs)))
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Thursday, July 31, 2008 - Going back?
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Ladies, going back could mean her death or her husband kidnapping the children. It only takes one time...Why take the risk..or your DC's.
The courts do not always rule in favor..it is a gamble indeed having no actual proof persay.
Yes, leaving w/ her dc would also be kidnapping but HER leaving would be much better then her husband leaving and continuing a abusive relationship with these sweet blessings the Lord has *trusted* her with. Kwim? There are many lives to consider.
Who's to say that if Carrie does get out and get her own place right now and her husband trails her down and still manages to kidnap the youngins or even worst.
I agree with the poster who said to leave with backup..not on your own..The shelters that give a new name and life etc. would be the best bet.
If she left she would probably have to blend in and have herself and her children dress in standard clothing.
I do not think that would mean that she is giving up on her faith or the Lord..The Lord knows our hearts desire and I think it would be wise to consider dressing in a more blended in way at this time for nothing more then safety..
What about future employment? It would not take much for a customer to mention a women working in such and such place who in *there* mind looks Amish..Word could spread fast. SO, I do think Carrie should be praying about how the Lord would have her dress during this time while out and about..as well as the children.
Carrie is obviously a VERY strong and couragous women who has come this far...and the Lord will show her what to do and will continue to hold her hand every step of the way.
(Continuing to pray hard for you all.)
~MichelleC
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